Update the value
Once a month, when the platform statement arrives or you do the math, is a good rhythm.1
Open the investment
Under Investments, click the position.
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Click Update value
The main field is today’s value, in the currency you recorded the investment in. Its name changes with the kind: balance for P2P, valuation for private equity, stake value for a business stake, outstanding balance for a loan, market value for a stock, ETF, fund, bond or crypto. The previous value sits underneath it, with the date it refers to.
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Set the date
It defaults to today. If you’re recording last month’s statement, use the statement date: the history then holds the value on the right day.
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Say whether money moved
There are three options besides None, with the amount and the date of the movement. This is the part that changes the return.
- You put more money in: on a stock, ETF, fund, bond or crypto it reads I bought more; on a loan, I lent more; on the rest, I added money.
- You took money out: I sold part, I was repaid or I withdrew money, in the same order.
- I received income: money the investment paid you and you kept, without selling anything or getting capital back.
When you record a movement, the value you enter is the balance after it. If the platform shows €3,000 today and you withdrew €6,000 this week, enter €3,000.
Why the question about money moving matters
guito works out the return by comparing what the investment is worth with what you put in. If the value went up because you deposited more, that isn’t earnings, it’s new capital. Say you deposited €5,000 on a platform in January. In March you topped up with €1,000, and the balance reached €6,100.- Update the balance to €6,100 and answer None, and guito compares €6,100 with the €5,000 invested and shows a €1,100 gain.
- Answer I added money, €1,000, and the amount invested becomes €6,000 and the gain lands at €100, which is what the platform actually earned you.
Income is not the same as taking money out
A bond coupon, a distribution from a business or interest on a P2P holding is money the investment paid you while you still hold the whole position. That’s what I received income is for: it leaves the amount invested alone and counts the money received as a gain. A €10,000 bond that pays a €250 coupon is still a €10,000 bond, with €250 earned. Recording it as I sold part instead would say you sold part of the bond. On a loan with an interest rate this option isn’t here: interest and capital are separated under Record repayment, which has a field for each.Values going stale
guito never forces you to update anything. Until you do, your net worth keeps counting the last value you recorded, and the investment shows how long ago that number was written (“Updated 4 months ago”, for example). After three months without an update you get a reminder by email. If it stays out of date, the reminder repeats at most monthly, and stops the moment you record a new value. You can turn it off in your notification settings. A loan with an interest rate is left out: its value is computed from the rate, so there is nothing to update.Loans with an interest rate
On a loan, the rate decides how the value is treated.- With a rate
- Without a rate
guito computes the value for you, as simple interest on the outstanding balance, counted from the date of each advance. If you lent €2,000 in January and another €1,000 in June, interest on the second advance only starts in June.Three actions keep the loan aligned with reality:
- Record repayment, when you get money back. It has one field for the capital repaid and another for the interest received: capital lowers what you’re owed, while interest is income and is recorded as a gain.
- Correct current value, when reality has drifted from the formula: a missed payment, a renegotiation, a default. The value you enter takes over from that date on.
- I lent more, when you’ve advanced more money to the same person, from inside Correct current value.
Taking money out
A withdrawal from a platform, or a repayment on a loan, reduces the capital you still have in there.- On any kind, record it inside Update value, in the question about money moving: I sold part on a stock, ETF, fund, bond or crypto, I was repaid on a loan with no rate, I withdrew money on the rest.
- On a loan with a rate, use Record repayment.
Close an investment
An investment like this ends in one of three ways, and all of them go through the same place: Close investment, in the position’s actions menu. guito asks how much you got back, and that answer is what separates the three endings.You sold or were repaid at a profit
You sold or were repaid at a profit
Enter the amount you received. The difference against the capital you still had invested is recorded as a realized gain and stays in your history.
You got back less than you invested
You got back less than you invested
Same field, smaller amount. The loss stays visible instead of disappearing with the position.
You lost it all
You lost it all
A platform that shut down, a loan nobody is going to repay: enter 0. guito accepts zero as a legitimate ending, without making you invent a value.
How the return is calculated
- The return is the difference between the current value and what you have invested, net of withdrawals.
- The annualized return (IRR) turns that gain into a per-year figure, accounting for the dates money went in and came out. It only appears after six months of holding: before that, a good month stretched into an annual rate would say more about the math than about the investment.
- A loan with no interest rate shows no annualized return (IRR).
Frequently asked questions
Why can't I see the annualized return?
Why can't I see the annualized return?
Either the investment is less than six months old, or it’s a loan with no interest rate. In the first case a dash takes the number’s place; in the second, the IRR isn’t shown at all.
Does the interest I receive show up in cash flow?
Does the interest I receive show up in cash flow?
Not automatically. If the interest stays on the platform, it shows up as the value rising when you update. If you transferred it to your bank, the movement arrives through your bank account, and on the investment side you record it under Update value with I received income (or, on a loan with a rate, in the interest field of Record repayment).
I received a bond coupon. How do I record it?
I received a bond coupon. How do I record it?
Under Update value, pick I received income and enter the amount and the date. The bond still holds its value, and the coupon is counted as a gain. Recording it as I sold part would say you sold a slice of the bond.
I lent more money to the same person. Do I create another loan?
I lent more money to the same person. Do I create another loan?
No need. Open the loan and record I lent more, with the amount and the date: on a loan with an interest rate that lives inside Correct current value, on a rate-free loan inside Update value. With a rate, interest on the new advance counts from that date, not from the beginning.
Do I have to update the value every month?
Do I have to update the value every month?
No. Net worth always counts the last known value. Updating regularly is what keeps the return and the chart honest.
Related pages
Investments valued by you
The nine kinds, and how to record your first one.
P2P lending
Platform, originator, and the total per platform.
Investments
Stocks, ETFs and funds, and how positions are organized in your portfolio.
Credits
The other side of a loan: the money you owe.